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	<title>Comments on: Purple Line and the Vibration Issue</title>
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		<title>By: Uncle Rico</title>
		<link>http://rethinkcollegepark.net/blog/2008/536/comment-page-1/#comment-176446</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a latecomer to this particular post, I&#039;d like to comment on a couple of things.  

1) I assume Dr. Schattenburg meant to reference the Red Line in his email, not the Green Line.  (The Green Line never enters MIT&#039;s home town of Cambridge.)  The Red Line is buried 25 feet underground as it passes MIT, so it&#039;s not completely apples-to-apples with the Purple Line&#039;s proposed surface routes through the College Park campus.

2) What IS apples-to-apples, though, is the heavy rail (freight) that passes even closer to Dr. Schattenburg&#039;s lab!  I don&#039;t know why he neglected to mention it.  If you look at that map of the MIT campus, check out the line running between buildings N4 and 44.  That&#039;s a surface railroad track!  Building 46 was built to span the railway, creating a high-ceiling tunnel for trains to pass through.

As the track heads out beyond building 46, it makes a shallow left turn and passes -- look again at the upper right corner of that map -- Draper Labs!  And the map doesn&#039;t show where the track goes next: directly through the heart of perhaps the biggest concentration of biotech and pharmaceutical research companies and labs on Earth.

Other properties located mere feet from that freight rail track: MIT&#039;s Plasma Science and Fusion Center, the Magnet Lab, the Superconducting Test Facility, etc.  

Somehow, all those folks and their delicate, high-precision research are doing just fine despite the heavy surface railroad tracks 20-30 feet away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a latecomer to this particular post, I&#8217;d like to comment on a couple of things.  </p>
<p>1) I assume Dr. Schattenburg meant to reference the Red Line in his email, not the Green Line.  (The Green Line never enters MIT&#8217;s home town of Cambridge.)  The Red Line is buried 25 feet underground as it passes MIT, so it&#8217;s not completely apples-to-apples with the Purple Line&#8217;s proposed surface routes through the College Park campus.</p>
<p>2) What IS apples-to-apples, though, is the heavy rail (freight) that passes even closer to Dr. Schattenburg&#8217;s lab!  I don&#8217;t know why he neglected to mention it.  If you look at that map of the MIT campus, check out the line running between buildings N4 and 44.  That&#8217;s a surface railroad track!  Building 46 was built to span the railway, creating a high-ceiling tunnel for trains to pass through.</p>
<p>As the track heads out beyond building 46, it makes a shallow left turn and passes &#8212; look again at the upper right corner of that map &#8212; Draper Labs!  And the map doesn&#8217;t show where the track goes next: directly through the heart of perhaps the biggest concentration of biotech and pharmaceutical research companies and labs on Earth.</p>
<p>Other properties located mere feet from that freight rail track: MIT&#8217;s Plasma Science and Fusion Center, the Magnet Lab, the Superconducting Test Facility, etc.  </p>
<p>Somehow, all those folks and their delicate, high-precision research are doing just fine despite the heavy surface railroad tracks 20-30 feet away.</p>
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		<title>By: Carter Hall</title>
		<link>http://rethinkcollegepark.net/blog/2008/536/comment-page-1/#comment-72987</link>
		<dc:creator>Carter Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Stadium Drive alignment has the closest proximity to advanced
laboratory space by a wide margin. And once the physical science 
complex is built (expected in 4-5 years), the physics department 
will move from its current location at the M circle to the intersection
of Stadium and Regent&#039;s. Then the university could plausibly rename 
Stadium Drive as Nanotechnology Way.</description>
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laboratory space by a wide margin. And once the physical science<br />
complex is built (expected in 4-5 years), the physics department<br />
will move from its current location at the M circle to the intersection<br />
of Stadium and Regent&#8217;s. Then the university could plausibly rename<br />
Stadium Drive as Nanotechnology Way.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://rethinkcollegepark.net/blog/2008/536/comment-page-1/#comment-72974</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A research campus of the University of California San Francisco has just been built in the massive Mission Bay project. Bio-tech and research is a major source of the projects tenants -- I believe Genentech has a headquarters there now -- the whole development is served by the new T-Third Light Rail line and is also adjacent to the existing lines for Caltrain commuter rail to the peninsula. You may consider looking into that, but as @Dexter indicates -- this seems like a red herring brought up to instill irrational fears in potential allies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A research campus of the University of California San Francisco has just been built in the massive Mission Bay project. Bio-tech and research is a major source of the projects tenants &#8212; I believe Genentech has a headquarters there now &#8212; the whole development is served by the new T-Third Light Rail line and is also adjacent to the existing lines for Caltrain commuter rail to the peninsula. You may consider looking into that, but as @Dexter indicates &#8212; this seems like a red herring brought up to instill irrational fears in potential allies.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dexter</title>
		<link>http://rethinkcollegepark.net/blog/2008/536/comment-page-1/#comment-72948</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This correspondence is consistent with what MTA has apparently already told campus officials but which the are apparently pretending not to hear so as to continue the UMD fear-mongering campaign among the faculty.

 Why doesn&#039;t the Diamondback investigate this issue?  Note Dr. Schattenburg&#039;s reference to utility buildings; UM built one on Stadium Drive - just across from the Engineering Building and adjacent to the addition to the Chemistry Building - both of which house sensitive research.  Another utility building is being expanded - across from the new BioScience Building mentioned by Clay.  Where special precautions taken in the planning and designing of these buildings - or is it just transit that the university is worried about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This correspondence is consistent with what MTA has apparently already told campus officials but which the are apparently pretending not to hear so as to continue the UMD fear-mongering campaign among the faculty.</p>
<p> Why doesn&#8217;t the Diamondback investigate this issue?  Note Dr. Schattenburg&#8217;s reference to utility buildings; UM built one on Stadium Drive &#8211; just across from the Engineering Building and adjacent to the addition to the Chemistry Building &#8211; both of which house sensitive research.  Another utility building is being expanded &#8211; across from the new BioScience Building mentioned by Clay.  Where special precautions taken in the planning and designing of these buildings &#8211; or is it just transit that the university is worried about?</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some time ago I attended a pre-construction meeting for the now complete Biosciences research bldg. (143) http://www.umd.edu/ouch/projects/biosciences.shtml

In that meeting there was concern from those with labs in Bio-Psych about vibrations during construction. The planners were adamant that they could reduce the vibrations to acceptable levels. I would think if those folks can handle pylons being driven into the earth 20ft away they could handle light rail on campus drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time ago I attended a pre-construction meeting for the now complete Biosciences research bldg. (143) <a href="http://www.umd.edu/ouch/projects/biosciences.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.umd.edu/ouch/projects/biosciences.shtml</a></p>
<p>In that meeting there was concern from those with labs in Bio-Psych about vibrations during construction. The planners were adamant that they could reduce the vibrations to acceptable levels. I would think if those folks can handle pylons being driven into the earth 20ft away they could handle light rail on campus drive.</p>
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